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Recent observations have identified an abundance of high-redshift active galactic nuclei (AGN) with overmassive supermassive black holes (BHs) compared to the local BH mass-total stellar mass (M_BH-M_⋆) relation for AGN. High-zM_BH measurements are critical for probing growth histories of BHs and their host galaxies, including BH seeding and evolution of the M_BH-M_⋆ relation. However, BH masses in high-z AGN are generally estimated from single-epoch measurements, which carry large systematic uncertainties. More reliable M_BH detection methods like dynamical measurements are currently only possible in the local Universe or with strongly lensed systems. Fortunately, new dynamical M_BH measurements in a sample of six local galaxies identified as likely relics of common quiescent red nugget galaxies at cosmic noon, as well as a z ∼ 2 lensed red nugget, present a complementary probe of high-z relations. We compare the z ∼ 2 red nugget and relic BHs to recent results for 4 < z < 11 AGN, quasi-stellar objects, and little red dots. Intriguingly, the z ∼ 2 galaxy and local relics all lie on both the local M_BH-M_⋆ relation for bulges and the 4 < z < 7 M_BH-M_⋆ AGN relation, although high-z AGN remain overmassive compared to both local relations. We conclude it is unlikely that a uniform M_BH-M_⋆ redshift evolution applies to all galaxies. Since total M_⋆ is affected by growth processes that may not drive BH growth, different evolutionary pathways must be carefully considered when building BH scaling relations.